👉 TAP TO SAVE 30% WITH CODE NEW
X
Lost password?

Don't have an account?
Gain Access Now

X

Receive free daily analysis

NFL
NBA
NHL
NASCAR
CFB
MLB
MMA
PGA
ESPORTS
BETTING

Already have an account? Log In

X

Forgot Password


POPULAR FANTASY TOOLS

Expert Advice
Articles & Tools
Import Your Leagues
Draft Rankings
Draft Simulator
Enter League Settings
Compare Any Players
Rookies & Call-Ups
24x7 News and Alerts

Fact or Fiction? Determining Whether Starting Pitchers Equal Quarterbacks In Fantasy Using "Teams In A Vacuum" Concept

Spencer Strider - Fantasy Baseball Rankings, Draft Sleepers, MLB Injury News

Glenn analyzes whether starting pitchers equal quarterbacks in fantasy using "Teams in a Vacuum" (TIAV) concept. Do the draft strategies for these two positions compare in fantasy?

Do starting pitchers equal quarterbacks when it comes to fantasy sports? In the days of Peyton Manning, there was always a single quarterback in the first-round rankings just like Spencer Strider today. The second-round rankings had Drew Brees and Tony Romo represented in this year’s baseball rankings by Gerrit Cole and Corbin Burnes.

But in fantasy football, some whiz kid figured out that the top quarterbacks score around the same number of points, so you can wait several rounds to draft one. Today’s fantasy football rankings have adjusted accordingly. However, starting pitchers (SPs) remain in the early rounds of fantasy baseball rankings. Rotisserie baseball doesn’t have a standard deviation to calculate, so you still see starting pitchers ranked in the first few rounds. If you draft a starting pitcher in an early round, are you paying too much for too little? What does history say?

Teams In A Vacuum (TIAV) utilizes historical data to draft teams using the Average Draft Position (ADP) and superimposing the fantasy results for the corresponding season. Although historical data for fantasy baseball is not as well archived as fantasy football, I was able to gather the past seven years of ADP lists and season results. For simplicity, ADP and fantasy rankings are used synonymously in this article. Let's look at what the teams are comprised of.

Be sure to check all of our fantasy baseball draft tools and resources:

 

Table 1 – Baseball Team Positions Drafted by TIAV

Quantity Position
1 First Base
1 Second Base
1 Third Base
1 Short Stop
3 Outfielders
1 Designated Hitter -- filled by next best batter in ADP
4 Starting Pitchers
3 Relief Pitchers

Please note that not enough catchers score in the top 300 players, so the catcher position is not included. 

The scoring categories are taken from the Yahoo rotisserie leagues:

  • Batting -- Runs, Home Runs, Runs Batted In (RBI), Batting Average, Stolen Bases
  • Pitching -- Strikeouts, Wins, Saves, Earned Run Average (ERA), Walks+Hits/Innings Pitched (WHIP)

After all the data is read into the computer, ADP is used as a guide to snake-draft teams for each year. Winning teams are calculated for each season using rotisserie scoring. For each category, teams are awarded points based on the order they finished. In a 10-team league, first place gets 10 points, second gets nine points, and down to last place, which receives one point. All of the points from each category are totaled up to find the winning team.

 

Table 2 – 2022 10-Team Rotisserie League Winner

ADP Player Name Preseason Position End Position Runs Home Runs RBIs Stolen Bases Average Wins ERA Saves Strike Outs WHIP
2 Juan Soto OF1 OF5 93 27 62 6 0.242
19 Ronald Acuna Jr. OF6 OF26 71 15 50 29 0.266
23 Matt Olson 1B3 1B4 86 34 103 0 0.24
42 Paul Goldschmidt 1B4 1B1 106 35 115 7 0.317
45 Liam Hendriks RP2 RP14 4 2.81 37 85 1.04
63 Alex Bregman 3B6 3B5 93 23 93 1 0.259
67 Logan Webb SP20 SP53 15 2.9 0 163 1.16
88 Alek Manoah SP26 SP17 16 2.24 0 180 0.99
93 Edwin Diaz RP5 RP2 3 1.31 32 118 0.84
115 Tommy Edman 2B5 2B4 95 13 57 32 0.265
116 Dansby Swanson SS16 SS4 99 25 96 18 0.277
138 Jorge Soler OF32 OF98 32 13 34 0 0.207
161 Luis Garcia SP46 SP36 15 3.72 0 157 1.13
166 Marcus Stroman SP48 SP102 7 3.51 0 119 1.15
290 Cristian Javier RP29 RP1 11 2.54 0 194 0.95
Team 9

Starting pitchers participate in four of the 10 categories -- strikeouts, wins, ERA, and WHIP. Unfortunately, starting pitchers are generally a drag on ERA. For example, the top-100 2023 starting pitchers averaged a 3.6 ERA while the top-100 relief pitchers (RPs) averaged a 2.9 ERA.

WHIP is generally the equivalent between the two positions. In 2023, the top-100 starting pitchers averaged a 1.15 WHIP while the top-100 relief pitchers averaged a slightly better 1.13 WHIP. In other words, starting pitchers are drafted for their contribution to three categories. Most early-round batters are prioritized above starting pitchers because they contribute to four categories -- runs, home runs, RBI, and batting average.

 

Table 3 – 2022 12-Team Rotisserie League Winner

ADP Player Name Preseason Position End Position Runs Home Runs RBIs Stolen Bases Average Wins ERA Saves Strike Outs WHIP
2 Juan Soto OF1 OF5 93 27 62 6 0.242
24 Xander Bogaerts SS3 SS8 84 15 73 8 0.307
27 Marcus Semien SS4 2B1 101 26 83 25 0.25
50 Pete Alonso 1B5 1B3 95 40 131 5 0.271
54 Nolan Arenado 3B5 3B4 73 30 103 5 0.293
78 Christian Yelich OF22 OF13 99 14 57 19 0.252
82 Carlos Rodon SP23 SP2 14 2.88 0 237 1.03
110 Pablo Lopez SP31 SP66 10 3.75 0 174 1.17
115 Tommy Edman 2B5 2B4 95 13 57 32 0.265
137 Jordan Romano RP10 RP28 5 2.11 36 73 1.02
139 Alex Verdugo OF33 OF23 75 11 74 1 0.28
177 Jacob deGrom SP52 SP18 5 3.08 0 102 0.75
201 Triston McKenzie SP60 SP22 11 2.96 0 190 0.95
313 Dylan Floro RP31 RP155 1 3.02 10 48 1.17
347 Kyle Finnegan RP36 RP60 6 3.51 11 70 1.14
Team 2

The fact that starting pitchers are sprinkled through the first few rounds appears to make a difference depending on the league size. As seen in Table 4, the value of your first SP goes up as the league size increases.

 

Table 4 – Draft Position of First Starting Pitcher on Winning Teams

League Type Year Winning Team First Starting Pitcher Draft Position Preseason Position End Position Roto Points
10-Team Rotisserie 2017 5 Carlos Carrasco 59 - 6th Player on Team SP14 SP5 69
2018 1 David Price 95 - 9th Player on Team SP24 SP26 75
2019 2 Jack Flaherty 66 - 7th Player on Team SP17 SP6 76
2020 4 Shane Bieber 27 - 3rd Player on Team SP7 SP1 76
2021 4 Max Fried 87 - 8th Player on Team SP23 SP26 77
2022 2 Logan Webb 67 - 7th Player on Team SP20 SP53 84
2023 9 Justin Verlander 30 - 3rd Player on Team SP7 SP45 81
Avg. First Starting Pitcher No. 62 - 7th Player on Team
League Type Year Winning Team First Starting Pitcher Draft Position Preseason Position End Position Roto Points
12-Team Rotisserie 2017 7 Carlos Martinez 71 - 6th Player on Team SP18 SP13 98
2018 2 Carlos Martinez 56 - 5th Player on Team SP24 SP26 86
2019 11 Zack Greinke 66 - 6th Player on Team SP16 SP11 102
2020 7 Gerrit Cole 7 - 1st Player on Team SP1 SP5 82
2021 6 Jacob deGrom 6 - 1st Player on Team SP1 SP36 93
2022 2 Carlos Rodon 82 - 7th Player on Team SP23 SP2 96
2023 12 Gerrit Cole 13 - 2nd Player on Team SP2 SP4 78
Avg. First Starting Pitcher No. 43 - 4th Player on Team
League Type Year Winning Team First Starting Pitcher Draft Position Preseason Position End Position Roto Points
16-Team Rotisserie 2017 7 Yu Darvish 40 - 3rd Player on Team SP10 SP15 121
2018 12 Max Scherzer 12 - 1st Player on Team SP24 SP26 126
2019 3 Zack Greinke 65 - 4th Player on Team SP16 SP11 115
2020 13 Walker Buehler 21 - 2nd Player on Team SP5 SP77 134
2021 10 Max Scherzer 24 - 1st Player on Team SP9 SP2 121
2022 7 Luis Castillo 118 - 7th Player on Team SP34 SP27 121
2023 7 Zac Gallen 62 - 4th Player on Team SP20 SP12 117
Avg. First Starting Pitcher No. 48 - 3rd Player on Team

 

Do Starting Pitchers Equal Quarterbacks?

Sometimes. TIAV shows that your first starting pitcher should not be drafted for several rounds in shallow leagues (10-team and less). In deep leagues (16-team and greater), starting pitchers should be considered from the first round. Of course, the vast majority of fantasy baseball leagues are 12 teams.

TIAV shows that the league can be won with a first-round starting pitcher but it is against the odds. Looking at the 2024 rankings, Spencer Strider would have to slip from the late first round to the second round to be considered. Gerrit Cole and Corbin Burnes would have to drop several spots before consideration as well.

The third round would be the first opportunity to draft a starting pitcher at their regular ranking. In other words, Teams In A Vacuum indicates you should be skeptical of drafting a starting pitcher in a 12-team league before the third round. Happy drafting!



Download Our Free News & Alerts Mobile App

Like what you see? Download our updated fantasy baseball app for iPhone and Android with 24x7 player news, injury alerts, sleepers, prospects & more. All free!



More Fantasy Baseball Advice




POPULAR FANTASY TOOLS

Expert Advice
Articles & Tools
Import Your Leagues
Draft Rankings
Draft Simulator
Enter League Settings
Compare Any Players
Rookies & Call-Ups
24x7 News and Alerts

REAL-TIME FANTASY NEWS

Christopher Bell

Could Christopher Bell be Considered A Decent DFS Option for Darlington?
Chase Elliott

Is Chase Elliott Worth Rostering At Darlington This Week For DFS?
Joey Logano

May Not Have the Speed to Warrant A Darlington DFS Lineup Spot
Ross Chastain

Should DFS Players Trust Ross Chastain at Darlington?
Kyle Busch

Could Kyle Busch Be A Worthy DFS Option for Darlington?
Brad Keselowski

May be A Contriarian DFS Tournament Option At Darlington
Daniel Suarez

has Little Upside for Darlington DFS Lineups
Bryce Young

a Potential Trade Target in Dynasty Leagues?
Devaughn Vele

Worth Buying Low on in Dynasty Leagues?
Darnell Washington

Climbs Up the Depth Chart
Adonai Mitchell

Trending Up After Quarterback Change?
Saquon Barkley

to Benefit From New-Look Offense in 2026?
Michael Wilson

On Track to be Cardinals' Top Fantasy Receiver?
Victor Wembanyama

Good to Go Versus Pacers
Seiya Suzuki

Won't be Ready for Opening Day
Kawhi Leonard

Ready to Face Dallas Saturday
Draymond Green

Available Saturday Against Atlanta
De'Anthony Melton

Cleared to Play Saturday
Jalen Johnson

Sidelined Saturday
Alperen Sengün

Alperen Sengun Will Play Against Heat
Kristaps Porzingis

Out Saturday Against Hawks
Jaylon Tyson

Ruled Out Versus Pelicans
Donovan Mitchell

Available Saturday Against New Orleans
Dylan Larkin

Remains Out Saturday
Austin Reaves

Cleared to Play Saturday
Jake Sanderson

Could Return in 7-10 Days
Morgan Rielly

Unavailable Saturday
Urho Vaakanainen

Considered Week-to-Week
Noah Laba

Out Week-to-Week
Tyler Toffoli

Questionable for Road Trip
Victor Hedman

Won't Play Against Oilers
Gleyber Torres

Clear to Return on Monday
Konnor Griffin

Assigned to Minor-League Camp
Jake Ferguson

Tails Off Late in 2025
Shedeur Sanders

Set to Face Competition Ahead of 2026
Tyreek Hill

Remains a Free Agent
Brock Bowers

Set for a Major Quarterback Upgrade?
Mack Hollins

Still Trending Up in New England?
Malik Washington

a Breakout Candidate Going into Year 3?
Mike Gesicki

a Bounce-Back Candidate in Third Year in Cincy
Xavier Legette

the Panthers' WR3 Heading into 2026?
Rashod Bateman

Dynasty Stock is on Life Support
Gleyber Torres

Scratched From Lineup on Saturday With Lower-Back Tightness
DJ Giddens

an Intriguing Handcuff Despite Minimal Standalone Value
Hunter Henry

Set to Collect Some Vacated Targets?
AJ Barner

Firmly Positioned Atop Depth Chart
Cedric Tillman

Dynasty Managers Losing Patience?
Josh Jacobs

Remains a Strong RB1 Option
Devon Witherspoon

Seahawks Pick Up Devon Witherspoon's Fifth-Year Option
Aaron Nesmith

Could Miss Saturday's Game
Andrew Nembhard

Could Miss Fourth Straight Game
Brice Sensabaugh

Remains Out Saturday
Grayson Allen

Could Miss Third Straight Game
Royce O'Neale

Unlikely to Play Saturday
Kristaps Porzingis

Exits Early, Likely Out Saturday
Landry Shamet

Leaves Friday's Game with Knee Issue
Jake Allen

has Excellent Performance in Defeat
Logan Thompson

Nearly Perfect In Victory
Pascal Siakam

Uncertain for Saturday Against Spurs
Stephon Castle

Questionable for Saturday Versus Pacers
Donovan Mitchell

Questionable as Cavaliers Visit New Orleans
Kevin Porter Jr.

Listed as Questionable Against Phoenix
Tanner Bibee

to Take the Ball on Opening Day
Logan Webb

to Start on Opening Day for Giants
Cristopher Sánchez

Cristopher Sanchez to Start on Opening Day for Phillies
Chris Sale

Braves Name Chris Sale as Their Opening Day Starter
Kyle Stowers

Leaves Friday's Game With Hamstring Tightness
Jasson Domínguez

Jasson Dominguez Optioned to Triple-A
Tyler Toffoli

Won't Play Saturday
Joel Armia

Ready to Return From Back Injury
Joel Eriksson Ek

Kirill Kaprizov, Joel Eriksson Ek to Remain Out Saturday
Ross Colton

Still Out Friday
Yan Kuznetsov

Remains Sidelined Friday
Shayne Gostisbehere

Misses Seventh Straight Contest
Jacob Misiorowski

Named Opening Day Starter
Morgan Rielly

Cleared to Play Friday
Mike Trout

X-Rays Come Back Negative on Mike Trout's Hand
Dylan Crews

Optioned to Triple-A Rochester
Lerone Murphy

Set For UFC London Main Event
Movsar Evloev

Looks To Remain Unbeaten
Michael Aswell

Jr. An Underdog At UFC London
Luke Riley

Set For UFC London Co-Main Event
Joe Ryan

Named Opening Day Starter for Twins
Sam Patterson

Looks To Extend His Win Streak
Michael Page

Set For Welterweight Bout
Austen Lane

In Dire Need Of Victory
Iwo Baraniewski

A Favorite At UFC London
Sergei Bobrovsky

Shuts Out Oilers with 21 Saves
Trent Frederic

Exits Early Against Panthers
Mason Appleton

Hurt Thursday Night
Tyler Toffoli

Suffers Lower-Body Injury in Thursday's Loss
Victor Hedman

Makes Early Exit Due to Illness
Francisco Alvarez

Pulled Early Thursday With Back Tightness
Luis Severino

to Start for A's on Opening Day
Logan Gilbert

Named Mariners Opening Day Starter
José Ramírez

Jose Ramirez Back in Cactus League Lineup on Thursday
Hayden Birdsong

to Have Tommy John Surgery, Miss Entire 2026 Season
Zack Wheeler

to Pitch in Minor-League Game on Monday
Paul Skenes

Pirates Officially Name Paul Skenes Their Opening Day Starter
Akshay Bhatia

Withdraws From Valspar Championship
CFB

Alberto Mendoza Drawing Positive Reviews at Georgia Tech
CFB

Anthony Colandrea Impressing in Nebraska's Spring Practices
J.J. Spaun

Offers Upside Despite Poor Course History at Innisbrook
Aaron Rai

Looks to Bounce Back at Valspar Championship
Johnny Keefer

Brings Ball-Striking Upside to Valspar Championship
Billy Horschel

a Volatile Play at Valspar Championship
Ben Griffin

Looks to Rebound at the Valspar Championship
Corey Conners

Brings Elite Ball-Striking to Valspar Championship
Xander Schauffele

Trending In The Right Direction For Valspar Championship
Sahith Theegala

Has Shot to Challenge at Valspar Championship
Mackenzie Hughes

Looking to Bounce Back at Valspar Championship
Nicolai Hojgaard

Finding Rhythm For Valspar Championship
Matt Fitzpatrick

Continues Hot Start to 2026 Heading to Valspar Championship
Pierceson Coody

Heads to Valspar Championship Following Two Missed Cuts
Wyndham Clark

Searching for Momentum at Valspar Championship
Justin Thomas

Is Justin Thomas Back Ahead of This Week's Valspar Championship?
Jordan Spieth

to Bounce Back at Favored Valspar Championship?
Brooks Koepka

is Starting to Find His Groove Again Ahead of Valspar Championship
Viktor Hovland

is One of The Best DFS Plays at Innesbrook
Rasmus Hojgaard

to Get Back on Track at Valspar Championship
Tony Finau

is Again a Scary Option at Valspar Championship
Blades Brown

Continues PGA Tour Run at Valspar Championship
Josh Emmett

Suffers First-Round TKO Loss
Kevin Vallejos

Scores First-Round TKO
Amanda Lemos

Drops Back-To-Back Fights
Gillian Robertson

Extends Her Win Streak
Andre Fili

Drops Decision on Saturday
Denny Hamlin

Dominates and Gets His Third Career Las Vegas Win
Chase Elliott

Earns Runner-Up Finish at Las Vegas
William Byron

Wins A Stage and Finishes Third at Las Vegas
Christopher Bell

Finishes Fourth at Las Vegas After Strong Run
Kyle Larson

Fades to Seventh Despite Leading Laps Early at Las Vegas
Andre Fili

Jose Delgado Edges Andre Fili in Split-Decision Win
Oumar Sy

Suffers First-Round Submission Loss
Ion Cutelaba

Returns To The Win Column
CFB

CJ Carr Enters Sophomore Season as Heisman Favorite
CFB

Aaron Philo Not a Lock to be Florida's Starting QB?
CFB

George MacIntyre the Favorite to Win Tennessee Quarterback Battle?
CFB

Keelon Russell, Austin Mack Battling for Alabama QB1 Duties
RANKINGS
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
OF
SP
RP

RANKINGS

QB
RB
WR
TE
K
DEF