👉 TAP TO SAVE 50% WITH CODE SPRING
X
Lost password?

Don't have an account?
Gain Access Now

X

Receive free daily analysis

NFL
NBA
NHL
NASCAR
CFB
MLB
MMA
PGA
ESPORTS
BETTING

Already have an account? Log In

X

Forgot Password


POPULAR FANTASY TOOLS

#1 Expert Projections
Save 50% Now
Import Your Leagues
Props Tool
Compare Any Players
Compare Any Players
24x7 News and Alerts

Jose Abreu Rankings Debate: Comparing RotoBaller's Rankers

2018 fantasy baseball rankings analysis on Chicago White Sox 1B Jose Abreu. Harris Yudin and Kyle Bishop debate his ADP value for 2018 drafts.

We on the RotoBaller staff have come up with our consensus rankings for mixed leagues, but there's plenty of debate over individual players' proper place in the pecking order.

In this space, we'll hear from rankers with the biggest differences of opinion on a well-known player and have them defend their position against each other.

Today, we're butting heads over White Sox first baseman Jose Abreu. Harris Yudin sees an underappreciated and consistent middle-of-the-order bat who deserves consideration in the third round, while Kyle Bishop isn't quite ready to make that investment. They each make their case below.

Featured Promo: Save 50% the regular price with discount code SPRING, for a limited time. Exclusive access to our Team Sync platform, DFS cheat sheets, Lineup Optimizers, betting/prop picks, and exclusive content from Nick Mariano and Eric Cross! GAIN ACCESS NOW

 

2018 Draft Rankings Debate - Jose Abreu

Ranking Tier Player Position Kyle Nick Pierre Jeff Harris Bill
34 3 Jose Abreu 1B 56 32 30 37 33 31

 

Harris Yudin's Ranking: #30 overall

Jose Abreu may not belong in the elite tier of first basemen -- which consists of Joey Votto, Paul Goldschmidt, Anthony Rizzo and Freddie Freeman -- but he’s not far behind. Among first basemen over the last four years, his numbers are on par with those of Miguel Cabrera (who is, in all likelihood, finished) and Edwin Encarnacion (who is also being criminally undervalued). There’s a pretty big drop-off after that, with only a few young guys knocking on the door. Cody Bellinger, Rhys Hoskins and Matt Olson fall into that group.

Abreu is the only player in baseball with at least 25 home runs, 100 RBI and a .290 batting average in each of those four seasons-- no one else has even done it three times in that span. He cranked out 30 long balls in three of those years, finishing in the top 25 in wRC+ every time. His only “down” season was 2016, when his HR/FB rate was 37 percent lower than his career average and he still posted an .820 OPS with 120 wRC+.

The downside for Abreu is the same as the downside for Justin Upton (whom I defended here)-- we know his ceiling. So my argument is similar. How many players, available at the end of the third or beginning of the fourth round, have the potential to hit 30 HR with 100 RBI and a .290 average?

Over the last four years, eight other active players (David Ortiz did it in 2016) with an ADP above 30 have managed that stat line in a single season. Of that group, Victor Martinez and Miguel Cabrera have shown clear signs of decline due to injury. Robinson Cano, Adrian Beltre, Ryan Zimmerman and Yoenis Cespedes are all older than Abreu and have been less consistent. That leaves Marcell Ozuna, who sits one spot above Abreu in my rankings, and Jonathan Schoop. If Schoop’s 2017 breakout is legitimate, then perhaps he should be valued higher, as well. But the point remains that you’ll be hard-pressed to find this kind of production later in the draft-- even Bellinger’s being drafted 20 spots earlier.

Kyle has Abreu ranked at No. 56, a full 26 (!!!!) spots lower than Hoskins, a soon-to-be 25-year-old with 18 career bombs. In order to prove how insane this is, it’s important to note that I am also incredibly high on Hoskins (my No. 34 overall player). Wouldn’t anyone be thrilled with 30-35 HR, 100 RBI and a .290 AVG from Hoskins, even with a late third-round pick? After all, each of the nine players who managed those numbers last year finished among the top-30 fantasy hitters.

I wouldn’t even blame anyone for taking a shot on Hoskins in the late 20s. But there’s no way Abreu should remain on the board a full two rounds later. A 31-year-old with that kind of consistent production should not fall out of the third round, let alone flirt with sliding into the sixth.

 

Kyle Bishop's Ranking: #56 overall

I'll admit my ranking of Abreu is probably a bit harsh. As Harris pointed out, there simply aren't many players who can provide the combination of a high average and solid pop that he can. But I still wouldn't take him in the top 30.

Prior to last season, Abreu's production had been steadily trending down across the board. His average dropped from .317 to .293, his home run total declined from 36 to 25 (thanks in large part to a 12-point drop in HR/FB%), and he went from 80 runs scored to just 67. 2017 arrested the decline, but it's not something we should completely ignore. Players like Ozuna, Schoop, and Hoskins are in their mid-twenties and are trending up. Abreu just turned 31. That isn't a death sentence, but he's got a body type that historically hasn't aged well.

I also don't see a lot of help around him in the White Sox lineup, which projects to be one of the worst in baseball. Abreu has managed to top 100 RBI every season so far, but right now the guys who are projected to bat in front of him are Charlie Tilson (a 25-year-old who hasn't hit much in the minors or played at all since 2016) and Yoan Moncada (who, however rosy his long-term outlok, is projected to be a below-average hitter this season). Even if you assume Abreu will get his RBI opportunities as usual, who's driving him in? Y'all can bet on Avisail Garcia's unsustainable performance last year if you like, but color me skeptical.

 

More 2018 MLB Ranking Debate Articles




POPULAR FANTASY TOOLS

#1 Expert Projections
Save 50% Now
Import Your Leagues
Props Tool
Compare Any Players
Compare Any Players
24x7 News and Alerts

REAL-TIME FANTASY NEWS

CJ McCollum

Hawks Plan to Bring Back CJ McCollum
Yandy Díaz

Yandy Diaz Leaves With Side Tightness, Considered Day-to-Day
Jacob Misiorowski

Leaves Start Early on Friday With Hamstring Cramp
Austin Reaves

Starting Friday Night
Brandon Nimmo

Aggravates Hamstring, Pulled Early on Friday
Luke Kennard

Lakers Hope to Retain Luke Kennard in Free Agency
Dillon Brooks

Suns Want to Keep Dillon Brooks Long-Term
Jamal Shead

Joins Starting Lineup Friday
Jayson Tatum

OK for Game 7 Against 76ers
Joel Embiid

Probable for Game 7 Against Celtics
Jonathan Isaac

Downgraded to Out
Kevin Huerter

Misses Second Consecutive Game Friday
Brandon Ingram

Out on Friday
Tobias Harris

Cleared to Play Friday
Kevin Durant

Officially Out for Game 6
Ryan Helsley

Placed on Injured List With Elbow Inflammation
Dylan Holloway

Signs Five-Year Extension With Blues
Barrett Hayton

Jack McBain Iffy for Friday
Logan Stanley

a Game-Time Decision Friday
Viktor Arvidsson

Ruled Out Friday
TB

Nicholas Paul Set to Return Friday
Charle-Edouard D'Astous

Ready for Action Friday
Victor Hedman

to Be an Option "Really Soon"
Ja'Marr Chase

Is Ja'Marr Chase the Obvious Dynasty WR1 Entering 2026?
Javonte Williams

Can Javonte Williams Replicate 2025 Success in 2026?
Terry McLaurin

is Well-Positioned to Rebound in 2026
Justin Herbert

Dynasty Value Rising Following Offseason Overhaul in Los Angeles
Tee Higgins

Is Tee Higgins a Top-24 Dynasty Wide Receiver?
Ryan Pepiot

to Miss the Rest of the Season, Scheduled for Hip Surgery
Kansas City Chiefs

Chiefs Looking to Establish a Running Game in 2026
James Conner

Buried on Cardinals' Depth Chart Heading into 2026
DK Metcalf

Won't be Charged for Incident With Lions Fan
Brandon Woodruff

Goes on Injured List With Shoulder Inflammation
Nico Hoerner

Leaves Friday's Game Early With Neck Tightness
Broderick Jones

Steelers Decline the Fifth-Year Option for Broderick Jones
Russell Wilson

Ready to Hang Up his Cleats for TV Gig?
Chase Claypool

to Try Out for the Packers
Jack Della Maddalena

Returns At UFC Perth
Carlos Prates

Set For UFC Perth Main Event
Quillan Salkilld

Set For Co-Main Event
Beneil Dariush

An Underdog At UFC Perth
Steve Erceg

Looks To Win Back-To-Back Fights
Tim Elliott

Looks For His Third Consecutive Win
Ollie Schmid

Set For His UFC Debut
Marwan Rahiki

Looks To Remain Undefeated
Cam Skattebo

Role Survives the NFL Draft
Malik Nabers

Has Top-Tier Upside When Healthy
Evan Engram

Still Atop Depth Chart After NFL Draft
TreVeyon Henderson

Run-Heavy Apparoach Set to Benefit TreVeyon Henderson?
Wyatt Langford

Suffers Setback With Forearm Injury
Caleb Williams

Continues to Trend Upward in Ben Johnson's System
Anthony Richardson Sr.

Colts Won't Pick Up Anthony Richardson Sr.'s Fifth-Year Option
Cleveland Browns

Browns "Would Love" to Have QB Situation Decided Before Training Camp
Elijah Arroyo

Dynasty Stock Up Slightly After NFL Draft
Tre Tucker

Offers Limited Dynasty Value Despite a Lack of Competition
Jack Bech

has a Clear Path for Growth in Year 2
Terrence Shannon Jr.

Steps Up in Series Clincher
Jaden McDaniels

Leads Timberwolves to Round 2
Nikola Jokić

Nikola Jokic Finishes Strong Despite Series Exit
Mikal Bridges

Breaks Out in Series Clincher
Karl-Anthony Towns

Posts Triple-Double to Close Series
Paul George

Heats Up From Deep in Game 6 Win
Tyrese Maxey

Drops 30 Points to Force Game 7
Devin Booker

Suns Not Interested in Trading Devin Booker
Terrence Shannon Jr.

Starting in Game 6
Brandon Woodruff

to Get Some Time Off
Nikita Chibrikov

Recovering From Core-Muscle Surgery
WPG

Elias Salomonsson Out 5-6 Months After Shoulder Surgery
Radko Gudas

Remains Out Thursday
Tyler Myers

Scratched on Thursday
Michael Bunting

Arttu Hyry Unavailable Thursday, Michael Bunting Makes Postseason Debut
Bobby Brink

to Sit Out Thursday's Game 6
Jonas Brodin

Will Miss Game 6 Against Stars
Michael Harris II

Could be Forced to the Injured List
Luis Robert Jr.

Officially Placed on Injured List
Clayton Keller

Sets Up Two Goals Wednesday Night
Pavel Dorofeyev

Nets Special Hat Trick in Game 5 Win
Dan Vladar

Backstops Flyers to Series-Clinching Win
Leon Draisaitl

Oilers to Use Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl on Same Line Thursday
Brady Tkachuk

Remains Committed to Senators
Arttu Hyry

Could Be Available Thursday
Brandon Nimmo

Leaves Wednesday's Game With Hamstring Tightness
MLB

Phillies-Giants Postponed on Wednesday Due to Rain
Nils Lundkvist

to Remain Out Thursday
MLB

Orioles-Astros Game Postponed Due to Inclement Weather on Wednesday
Gary Woodland

Riding Momentum Into Cadillac Championship
Jordan Spieth

Brings Boom-or-Bust Potential to Cadillac Championship
Adam Scott

Looks Poised for Another Strong Finish at Doral
Maverick McNealy

Needs Approach Game to Click at Doral
George Springer

Being Activated From Injured List, Won't Start on Wednesday
Wyatt Langford

Expected to be Activated on Saturday
Garrett Crochet

Goes on Injured List With Shoulder Inflammation
CFB

Jameson Williams Files Lawsuit Against NCAA, SEC, Big Ten
Junior Caminero

Back in Wednesday's Lineup After Injury Scare
Harry Hall

Volatility Continues at Cadillac Championship
Tommy Fleetwood

Looks to Rebound at Trump National Doral
Pierceson Coody

a Risky Value Play at Cadillac Championship
Akshay Bhatia

Offers Upside with Risk at Cadillac Championship
Justin Thomas

a Scary Proposition at Cadillac Championship
Scottie Scheffler

The Leading Favorite at Cadillac Championship
Collin Morikawa

Still a Smash Play at Cadillac Championship
Viktor Hovland

Showed at Augusta He Can Finish Well
Sepp Straka

Attempting to Finish Better in Miami
PGA

J.J Spaun Enduring Roller Coaster Start to 2026
Min Woo Lee

Seeks to Make Adjustments at Cadillac Championship
Max Homa

May Struggle at Old Doral This Weekend
Ben Griffin

Rebounds From Rough Stretch as Miami Looms
Shane Lowry

Searching For Answers at Cadillac Championship
Russell Henley

Daunting Test at Doral Likely Not a Place For Russell Henley
Justin Rose

Returns to Action After Finishing Third at Masters Tournament
Hideki Matsuyama

Has The Approach Game to Win at Cadillac Championship
Junior Caminero

Suffers Jaw Contusion on Tuesday, Considered Day-to-Day
Pete Fairbanks

Going on Injured List With Nerve Irritation
Spencer Strider

to Make Season Debut This Weekend
CFB

Brendan Sorsby Facing Potential Permanent Loss of Eligibility
Carson Hocevar

Scores his First Career NASCAR Cup Series Victory at Talladega
Chris Buescher

Misses out on Winning at Talladega by Finishing Second
Alex Bowman

Earns First Top-Five Finish at Talladega Since Returning From Injury
Chase Elliott

Scores A Fourth-Place Finish at Talladega
Zane Smith

Nabs First Top-Five Finish of the 2026 Season at Talladega
CFB

Texas Tech Quarterback Brendan Sorsby Enters Rehab
Youssef Zalal

Suffers Unanimous-Decision Loss
Aljamain Sterling

Wins Back-To-Back Fights
Norma Dumont

Drops Decision At UFC Vegas 116
Joselyne Edwards

Scores Upset Win
Alexander Hernandez

Gets Dominated
Alexander Hernandez

Rafa Garcia Dominates Alexander Hernandez
Adrian Luna Martinetti

Unsuccessful In His UFC Debut
Davey Grant

Gets Back In The Win Column
Denny Hamlin

Is Denny Hamlin Worth Rostering for Talladega?
NASCAR

Is Bubba Wallace Playable in Talladega DFS Lineups?
Tyler Reddick

Stay Away From Tyler Reddick at Talladega
Ryan Blaney

Can Ryan Blaney Shake Off The Bad Luck at Talladega?
Austin Cindric

Could Contend For Another Talladega Win
Kyle Busch

an Easy DFS Pick at Talladega
Ricky Stenhouse Jr

. a High-Risk, High-Reward Pick at Talladega
Todd Gilliland

a Sleeper to Watch at Talladega
Brad Keselowski

Is Brad Keselowski Worth Rostering for Talladega Lineups?
Chase Briscoe

Could Chase Briscoe be A Sneaky Tournament Play for Talladega Lineups?
Christopher Bell

Should DFS Managers Trust Christopher Bell at Talladega?
Ty Gibbs

Is A DFS Risk for Talladega Lineups
RANKINGS
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
OF
SP
RP

RANKINGS

QB
RB
WR
TE
K
DEF